tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post4450434002140560931..comments2023-12-25T21:45:42.095+00:00Comments on Growing Colour Tyfu Lliw: Fermented Indigo VatHelenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-22134710491328822272010-09-01T16:51:46.986+01:002010-09-01T16:51:46.986+01:00Hi Aila
One of the recipes in my book -the Colour ...Hi Aila<br />One of the recipes in my book -the Colour of the Sea and Sky - is one I invented myself using molasses. In other parts of the world they use yeast and sugar, dates and molasses .You need anything which will ferment and a source of slow release of sugar I use the madder bran vat because I like it.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-9285551029509701242010-07-11T10:19:28.708+01:002010-07-11T10:19:28.708+01:00Hi Helen,
I am looking around for indigo dye vat ...Hi Helen, <br />I am looking around for indigo dye vat recipes and found this lovely site. <br />Do you know of another material besides madder that I can use? I am living in Israel right now and don't have any idea of where to look for it. <br /> Thank you so much,<br /> AilaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09204570223708035668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-82184063310653910802009-10-02T18:51:00.331+01:002009-10-02T18:51:00.331+01:00Helen, thanks for answering all my questions- I ha...Helen, thanks for answering all my questions- I have ordered your indigo book, and now want the others too- can I change my order?<br />I'll email privately- thanks again!Manya Maratouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00634215614481267090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-45869313618030506472009-09-30T22:03:40.548+01:002009-09-30T22:03:40.548+01:00I have just realised I missed a question. I use ma...I have just realised I missed a question. I use madder roots. I don't see why powder would not work but I have not tried it.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-60531239629870290292009-09-30T22:00:53.470+01:002009-09-30T22:00:53.470+01:00Hi Manya I haven't found that my lye loses its...Hi Manya I haven't found that my lye loses its potency. If anything I would expect it to get stronger overtime, The ash would get "cleaner" as the water absorbs the chemicals from the ash. <br />I don't see why the wild madder not work as well as ordinary madder it is the sugars in the madder which make it work or so I understand.<br />Washing soda is sodium carbonate, Caustic soda Sodium hydroxide. Sodium hydroxide is much stronger than sodium carbonate and even a little would kill your vat I think. If you cannot get sodium carbonate-over here you can buy it from companies selling dyes as soda ash - then I would use your wood ash lye. <br />I hope this all helpsHelenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-61237367842721336772009-09-30T11:05:51.542+01:002009-09-30T11:05:51.542+01:00another question or two(sorry) is the madder powde...another question or two(sorry) is the madder powder or roots cut up? would wild madder do? it does ferment when left in water. <br />also I have found caustic soda around here, but not washing soda. I understand caustic soda is harsher than the other kind, could I use just a little bit?:-) (that is a sheepish smile)Manya Maratouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00634215614481267090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-45787205532223350452009-09-30T10:56:21.364+01:002009-09-30T10:56:21.364+01:00thank you Helen for posting this.Your description ...thank you Helen for posting this.Your description makes it seem feasible- I;ll give it a try. I;ve only tried the fleece water vat from Liles, it was good with fleece and gave me light blue on yarn, but I left it alone for three days and the smell changed to rotten so I threw it out. <br />I have a question about lye- does it lose its potency with time? I have ashes standing in water, theyve been there a couple of months, is this still lye? I know that to put ash in the soil you have to leave it outside so it is not as caustic after a winter of rain.<br />thanks!Manya Maratouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00634215614481267090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-89917235891625380012009-09-30T01:27:51.470+01:002009-09-30T01:27:51.470+01:00Those colors would look perfect with a black Cat o...Those colors would look perfect with a black Cat on them.Rascalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08438615206997507741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-18075838508636177942009-09-28T19:21:44.225+01:002009-09-28T19:21:44.225+01:00Hi Alison I am glad your father enjoyed it - it wa...Hi Alison I am glad your father enjoyed it - it was really good of him to come. No photos but you are right I will photograph it but of course I can't bnt quite remember the concentration I used. Really annoying!Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-28293011583793889392009-09-28T15:02:26.555+01:002009-09-28T15:02:26.555+01:00Fascinating, Helen! It was lovely to see your stud...Fascinating, Helen! It was lovely to see your studio (and smell the vat) on Saturday with Helfa Gelf. My Dad was very impressed with the speed at which your very fine merino turns into felt - and I was very, very impressed with that wonderful crimson you got from cochineal. Any photos?<br />Alison<br />(P.S. previous post removed for typos, and because I forgot to sign it!)AChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09784676535322905109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-4233087282458365832009-09-28T15:00:57.361+01:002009-09-28T15:00:57.361+01:00This comment has been removed by the author.AChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09784676535322905109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-54713392705946370362009-09-27T22:22:48.108+01:002009-09-27T22:22:48.108+01:00Hi Ladka washing soda is sodium carbonate. Here,in...Hi Ladka washing soda is sodium carbonate. Here,in the UK you can get it in hardware stores in the cleaning materials section. It used to be used for washing the dishes before washinh u pliquid was invented and is still used sometimes for cleaning floors etc. Hope that helps.<br />Bettina maybe you could think of a stale urine vat outside next summer I got gorgeous blues with that.<br />Well Leigh hardwood ashes are a good start - wood ash lye can be used in a lot of dye recipesHelenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-64243481739918580802009-09-27T13:54:36.018+01:002009-09-27T13:54:36.018+01:00Love the sign on the vat!
Well, soon I'll hav...Love the sign on the vat!<br /><br />Well, soon I'll have my own hardwood ashes, now all I need is the dye garden to go with it! Planting for that starts next spring. :)Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02435811789823712254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-43989457890896429002009-09-27T11:41:13.870+01:002009-09-27T11:41:13.870+01:00Helen, your blues are gorgeous! I love blue, esp. ...Helen, your blues are gorgeous! I love blue, esp. the dark ones and it looks so good on your shibori fabrics! I'd like to do a fermentation vat myself, but I have a problem with holding the temperature (I don't think I'd be allowed to stay in the house for much longer if I put that vat up beside the stove:)) - and I don't want to resort to using electricity to keep it up:(( well, maybe next summer....if we get one!Woolly Bitshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11961632742998726155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-56436554609775809522009-09-27T10:16:55.873+01:002009-09-27T10:16:55.873+01:00Thank you, Helen, for posting this recipe, the des...Thank you, Helen, for posting this recipe, the description of your processing and the pictures. <br />I have recently been given some indigo and some madder, so maybe I'll try - but I still don't have washing soda nor do I know what it is and if I can get it somewhere near :-(Ladkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06804899281049209727noreply@blogger.com