tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post6345537230943452833..comments2023-12-25T21:45:42.095+00:00Comments on Growing Colour Tyfu Lliw: second year woad bluesHelenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-55859295865050494832011-04-25T14:05:34.097+01:002011-04-25T14:05:34.097+01:00Thanks! I'm going to try it as soon as it warm...Thanks! I'm going to try it as soon as it warms up a little more here!Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10960161354673558396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-65868358423297413682009-05-08T09:02:00.000+01:002009-05-08T09:02:00.000+01:00Wow! You have got a really good selection of dye b...Wow! You have got a really good selection of dye books. Liles is a particularly good book especially for cotton and linen dyeing and superb on indigo <br />I wondered if you could grow Persicaria Tinctoria known also as Japanese Polygonum which is the blue bearing plant the Japanese use.It is an annual,not frost hardy so might do well with you although I don't know how well it does in heat and probably not well in dry conditions.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-42586368146494280162009-05-07T22:41:00.000+01:002009-05-07T22:41:00.000+01:00wow, Helen, thank you for your answer
I have found...wow, Helen, thank you for your answer<br />I have found descriptions and lots of pictures on the internet, I am plowing through my dyebooks (just arrived!) I have r. buchanan dyers and weavers garden and J. Liles, and J. Deans natural dyeing and also "wildflowers of the mediterranean" which is quite practical and helpful. <br />at the roadsides and in uncultivated fields there is a plant which looks very much like woad from afar, but the leaves are different- deeply lobed and the seeds are very different. <br />the plant I have found looks very much like the one in this picture<br />http://www.presentltd.com/rugs/arfp-natural_dyes_indigosources.htm<br />an I am waiting for the seeds to form to be sure- and to get some!<br />I'm also planning to visit plant nurseries to ask about the other indigo bearing plants<br />the reason I asked is becuse my favourite plantsperson, who has an intimate knowledge of all plants in this area shook his head in disbelief when I said that the flowers come out in the second year. I haven't noticed any of the "rosette" type "weeds" survive the dry hot summer we have here. we eat a lot of them so we tend to notice which ones are still around...:-)<br />I will look up Chardon's book, thank you for offering to write out part of it for me, but I think with time and patience I will get the answers to many of my questions! if the plant I'm following is an indigo bearing plant I will certainly tell you- now it has too few leaves and I would feel sorry if I picked themManya Maratouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00634215614481267090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-22597731916506035522009-05-07T15:58:00.000+01:002009-05-07T15:58:00.000+01:00Hi Manya I am sorry that I have been a bit slow re...Hi Manya I am sorry that I have been a bit slow replying but needed to check my favourite Dyeing book. Dominique CArdons Natral Dyes. This book,published in English a couple of years ago is very expensive but worth its weight in gold as it is full of information about dye plants. According to Dominque Cardon woad probably originated in South east Russia but is now widespread throughout Europe, Mediterranean and Turkey and Indochinea and has been spread to North America too. It seems to thrive in Mediterranean climates so you could well have woad in your locality. She say that Isatis Tictoria always flowers in its second year unlike Isatis Ingotica which sometimes flowers in the first year. However she admits that not enough is known about variants and when I asked Enys who grows my dye plants she says that it could well flower in its first year. <br />I need to to hunt a bit more in my dye books but there is a method of getting a leaf imprint in blue onto fabric from a plant bearing the indigotin precursor (Indigotin being the chemical name of the blue dye that gives us blue.<br />If you would like precise botanical description of Isatis Tinctoria let me know and I will copy it from Dominque Cardon's book.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-72603336275922989602009-05-06T08:03:00.000+01:002009-05-06T08:03:00.000+01:00hello and thanks for the welcome!
a gardening ques...hello and thanks for the welcome!<br />a gardening question: do you think it is possible that here in Greece woad goes through its whole cycle in one season? in plants like this leaves usually come out in february, and the flowers shoot up about 40 days later. seeds have lready formed on the plants around here, none are woad, but I have my eye on a plant with the right flowers, greyish clasping leaves etc. waiting for the seeds....Manya Maratouhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00634215614481267090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-34219245099110329572009-05-05T21:56:00.000+01:002009-05-05T21:56:00.000+01:00Well it is just as easy to extract colour from Jap...Well it is just as easy to extract colour from Japanese Indigo,which in any case is higher in indogitin too I think-<br />and if you have 29 plants you will have quite a lot of dye!Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05597640040480685246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-24234427445494258982009-05-05T21:48:00.000+01:002009-05-05T21:48:00.000+01:00Looks like I'm going to have more of the Japanese ...Looks like I'm going to have more of the Japanese indigo plants this year (29 seedlings!) than woad, germination is slow now the weather had turned colder. I think I have about 5 woad plants at the moment.Dorothyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06488670649558382921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-53029773546977392932009-05-05T19:03:00.000+01:002009-05-05T19:03:00.000+01:00Thank you so much for giving us this very useful d...Thank you so much for giving us this very useful description of your process. One day I will be brave enough to try dying fibers!Patriciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238803337590070942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-75463944294839871362009-05-05T16:49:00.000+01:002009-05-05T16:49:00.000+01:00Thanks for posting this. I've been having such a b...Thanks for posting this. I've been having such a busy spring I haven't had time to try this with my spring woad. I did boil some up, just to get that peachy-color. I also dried some leaves, just to see if, later, they'll give any color. Woad is such a vigorous plant!Be Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16338762447161192338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6266388920813232236.post-28167698937378171572009-05-05T14:35:00.000+01:002009-05-05T14:35:00.000+01:00exiting!exiting!Yvettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138424562030321140noreply@blogger.com